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Graham T's avatar

Bullseye. The real problem we face, now, is not political, structural or technological - it's a question of religion. We look askance at cults such as Gloriavale or the Moonies, but seldom question our own prevailing delusion - that endless GDP growth is both possible and our birthright.

Challenging this fantasy is seen as outrageous, unspeakable blasphemy. The corporate mindset simply can't contemplate any limits to growth. Nor can it accept that that money is merely a proxy for access to energy, and therefore nobody actually "makes money" we merely enable ourselves to sequester a chunk of Earth's limited resources during our lifetime.

It follows, inexorably, that people who sequester more resources than they could possibly need are neither role-models, 'captains of industry', or wealth 'creators'; they are parasites.

It also follows that competition (by industries or regions) for consumer spending is stupid. When cities try to get wealthier by building a convention centre, or hosting a major sporting event, all they are doing is extracting money from somewhere else. Looked at like that, the economy is a zero-sum game.

Fixing this will be impossible unless we can achieve a total rethink of societal priorities and values. Given the seductive appeal of wealth, and our Freudian attachment to status symbols such as powerful cars, big houses and fat wallets, is this even possible?

I hope so, because if not the laws of physics will take us down.

Kevin Hester's avatar

Nathan doing the Minister of Energy's work for him, which I suspect he will never read!

I can't think of one 'leader' in Aotearoa NZ with the gumption, intellect, integrity and honesty required to act on the conclusions in this paper.

The first and most obvious action we should do is stockpile diesel and grains on a national scale before regional war breaks out in West Asia, oh wait, too late!

The reason we won't prepare it is no one in a seat of power will risk their privilege by pointing out the system is irretrievably kaput! This is true across the full spectrum of parties in Aotearoa NZ.

To quote John Kenneth Galbraith: "People of privilege will always risk their complete destruction rather than surrender any material portion of their privilege".

To quote Upton Sinclair: "It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends on him not understanding it".

There are two options, managed decent or collapse, we are by default choosing collapse, lets reconsider that whilst we still can.

I've added this summary to my blog post on Joseph Tainter's work titled: The Myth of Human Progress and the Collapse of Complex Societies. Chris Hedges & Joseph Tainter.

https://kevinhester.live/2017/08/08/the-myth-of-human-progress-and-the-collapse-of-complex-societies-chris-hedges/

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